Next Up: Narcissism

Episode 52: Narcissists and Infidelity

When a narcissist cheats, the affair often has little to do with love or connection. It’s about power.
 
In this episode, I sit down with psychotherapist Lauren LaRusso, LPC, LMHC, to unpack why narcissists have affairs and how their motivations are different from what most people expect. Why do they always seem to have someone waiting in the wings? Why is there so little remorse when they’re caught? And why does the person who’s been betrayed so often end up feeling like the one to blame?
 
Lauren and I talk about how narcissists use affairs to stay in control and protect their image. These betrayals aren’t usually about emotional disconnection. They’re about manipulation, dominance, and supply. We also get into what it’s like for the person on the receiving end: the self-doubt, the confusion, the isolation. And we talk honestly about why leaving is so complicated. Sometimes there are kids involved. Sometimes it’s about safety. Sometimes it’s about survival.
 
If you’ve been through this, or you’re still in it, I hope this conversation brings you clarity. You’re not imagining it. You’re not overreacting. And most importantly, you’re not alone.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Why Narcissists Cheat
03:25 What Counts as an Affair
04:52 Gender Differences in Infidelity
12:06 Can an Affair Stabilize a Marriage?
16:47 Why People Don’t Just Leave
23:24 Affairs in Narcissistic Relationships
27:38 The “Perfect” Narcissist and Secret Lives
30:10 Lack of Accountability
33:07 How Narcissistic Abuse Shows Up in Therapy
38:01 The Danger of Blaming the Betrayed Partner
40:07 Affairs as a Survival Strategy
42:03 Healing After Narcissistic Relationships
 
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Episode 51:Transparency in Family Court and Parental Alienation with Dr. Charlotte Proudman

Family courts were designed to protect families. So why do so many survivors find themselves trapped by the very system that was supposed to protect them?
 
In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Charlotte Proudman, a family law barrister and founder of Right to Equality. Charlotte has spent her career challenging the failures of the family court system, especially when it comes to cases involving domestic abuse, sexual coercion, coercive control, and parental alienation. We talk openly about the real impact these failures have on women and children, and why change is so urgently needed.
 
Why is coercive control still overlooked in custody cases? How did parental alienation turn into a legal weapon used by abusive parents? Charlotte shares powerful stories from her new book, “He Said, She Said,” and explains how family courts continue to mishandle allegations of sexual abuse and emotional violence.
 
This conversation pulls back the curtain on a system that too often silences the very people it should protect. Charlotte and I talk about what needs to happen for family courts to finally center the voices of survivors, and how we can push for the trauma-informed change that families deserve.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
02:22 Family Courts and Gender Equality
03:44 Systemic Failures in Addressing Domestic Abuse
08:07 Sexual Coercion and Coercive Control
16:07 Parental Alienation as a Legal Strategy
34:07 Mishandling of Child Sexual Abuse Allegations
40:04 Purpose of “He Said, She Said”
 
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@drproudman on Instagram, X, and TikTok; https://www.charlotteproudman.com/team-4-1 
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Episode 50: Traveling with a Narcissist

You think a vacation will give you a break, but with a narcissist, it often becomes something else entirely.
 
In this episode, I’m talking about what it’s really like to travel with a narcissist. I’ve seen it over and over again, what should be a time to relax turns into a carefully orchestrated setup for control, intimidation, and emotional exhaustion. If you’ve ever come home from a trip feeling more anxious, confused, or even physically sick, you’re not imagining it.
 
I walk through the subtle ways narcissistic abuse shows up while traveling like taking you somewhere they know you’ll hate, “forgetting” something important, or isolating you from your support system. These things might seem small on their own, but together, they create an environment that’s anything but safe.
 
I also share strategies you can use if you feel stuck saying yes to the trip. What can you do to feel more in control? How do you protect your energy when you’re trapped on a flight, stuck in a car, or stranded in a hotel? And most importantly, how do you start seeing the pattern for what it is?
 
If vacations have ever felt more like punishment than peace, this episode will help you understand why and give you a few tools to take with you, no matter where you go.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Why Travel with a Narcissist Feels So Different
03:04 Narcissistic Tactics and Control During Vacations
08:02 Real Examples of Manipulation on Trips
16:27 How Abuse Shows Up at the Airport and in Transit
22:01 On-Vacation Behavior: Control, Coercion, and Isolation
28:02 The Aftermath: Post-Trip Anxiety and Physical Illness
32:32 Long-Term Impact on How You Experience Travel
35:46 Strategies to Protect Yourself While Traveling
42:07 Grounding Techniques and Internal Boundaries
 
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Episode 49: Thriving and Finding Purpose After Divorce with Zibby Owens

Starting over doesn’t always feel bold. Most of the time, it looks like picking up something familiar, like a book, a journal, or a forgotten dream, and doing it simply to feel like yourself again.
 
In this episode, I’m joined by Zibby Owens, an author, podcast host, and the founder of Zibby Media, who shares what it looked like to rebuild her life after divorce. At 40, with four young kids and weekends suddenly quiet, she didn’t launch into some grand reinvention. She started writing again. And then she kept going.
 
We talk about what happens when the life you’ve built no longer fits and how to begin again when everything feels uncertain. Zibby opens up about grief, rejection, single parenthood, and the slow return to her own identity. She shares how structure helped her move forward, how creativity gave her something to hold onto, and how including her kids in her work helped her feel more connected as both a parent and a person.
 
If you’re in a season of starting over, or even thinking about it, I think you’ll find this conversation both grounding and encouraging. Zibby’s story is a reminder that you don’t need to have it all figured out to begin. You just need one small step in the direction of who you are.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
04:05 Restarting Life After Divorce at 40
07:04 How Zibby Built a Media Career from Scratch
08:10 Living with Urgency and Purpose
12:08 Coping with Co-Parenting Grief
15:09 The Power of Small, Consistent Steps
17:04 Structure, Routine, and Mental Health
18:08 Reclaiming Identity After Motherhood
19:04 Involving Kids in Career and Purpose
23:35 Advice for Women Facing Divorce
 
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Episode 48: The Car: The Narcissist’s Tool for Abuse

A car ride with a narcissist can quickly shift from routine to one of the most dangerous and controlling dynamics in the relationship.
 
In this episode, I’m talking about something I see all the time in my work: how narcissists use driving as a form of coercive control. The car becomes more than just a way to get from one place to another. It becomes a tool for power, manipulation, and fear. If you’ve ever felt anxious, unsafe, or completely stuck during what should be a simple drive, you’re not imagining it.
 
I share the patterns I hear from clients again and again: partners making them late on purpose, driving recklessly, refusing to hand over the keys, or locking the doors to prevent them from getting out. These aren’t accidents. These are tactics.
 
I also walk through real strategies you can use if you’re in this kind of situation. Things like not revealing how important an event is, finding alternate transportation when possible, and staying emotionally neutral when you’re being baited. They’re small steps, but they can help you take back a sense of control when everything else feels chaotic.
 
If any of this sounds familiar, I hope this episode helps you name it, and start finding ways to protect your time, your energy, and your autonomy.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction 
02:32 Significance of Driving in Narcissistic Abuse
04:00 Control and Independence in Driving
06:08 Ownership and Control of the Car
10:23 Reckless Driving to Instill Fear
12:22 Creating Fear and Providing Safety
15:06 Verbal and Physical Abuse in the Car
19:55 Limiting Access to a Car
21:21 Identifying Patterns of Abuse
22:53 Strategies to Regain Control
25:56 Concrete Behaviors to Counter Manipulation
 
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Episode 47: Toxic Parents with Josh Connolly

Many people raised by toxic parents or caregivers don’t always recognize the abuse present in their upbringing. It’s often not until their adult relationships begin to break apart that they become aware of the abusive behavior patterns repeating from their childhood. 
 
In this episode, I’m joined by mental health advocate and best-selling author Josh Connolly for a powerful and honest conversation about what toxic parenting really looks like and its lasting impact. We talk about parents’ refusal to take accountability, how dysfunction gets passed off as the family “norm,” and why adult children carry guilt and shame about something they were once powerless to change. 
 
Josh discusses his use of  the word “toxic,” and how emotional abuse often flies under the radar. Josh also explains his “body first” approach to recovery, including how reconnecting with your body—and using tools like breathwork—can help regulate your nervous system and make space for emotional clarity.
 
We tackle the popular notion of having to forgive in order to move forward, offering our explanation as to why this is not always the case, and discuss the difference between forgiveness and acceptance .
 
If you’ve experienced an upbringing within the context of toxic parenting, and as a result, have difficulty trusting your own internal experiences, or feel guilty for setting boundaries, you’ll find this episode incredibly validating.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction 
03:06 Breathwork and Nervous System Regulation
05:23 Understanding Empathy and Boundaries
07:55 Defining Toxic Parents
09:00 Emotional Abuse and Power Dynamics
12:00 Misdiagnosis and Appropriate Reactions
17:10 Appropriate Reactions to Dysfunctional Environments
19:27 The Issue of Forgiveness
24:01 The Dangers of Pushing Forgiveness
27:06 Realizing the Truth About Toxic Upbringings
32:05 The Importance of Being Held and Supported
35:13 Josh Connolly’s Book: Purpose and Content
42:06 The Importance of Truth and Authenticity
 
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Episode 46: The Scamanda Docuseries with Creator Charlie Webster

Some betrayals do more than take money. They shatter trust in ways that can never fully be repaired. I sat down with Charlie Webster, the host, producer and writer of the top international podcast, Scamanda, to break down the shocking deception behind the story and the emotional damage it left behind.
 
Amanda Riley didn’t just lie about having cancer. She built an entire identity around it. She shaved her head, posted hospital photos, and wrote heartfelt blog updates, all while collecting over $100,000 in donations. But what makes someone go to such extremes? And how does that kind of deception affect the people who believed in her?
 
Charlie shared what it was like to uncover Amanda’s story, exposing how someone so seemingly normal managed to fool so many for so long. We explored the psychology behind these kinds of lies—why people are drawn to them, how victims struggle to process the betrayal, and what Amanda’s case reveals about manipulation, trust, and the stories we tell ourselves.
 
We also talked about Amanda’s husband, Corey. Did he know? Should he have? And what does this entire saga say about the way we judge people based on the image they present?
 
If you’ve ever felt deceived, questioned your instincts, or wondered how far someone would go for validation, this episode will make you think twice about what we choose to believe and why.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction 
05:01 The Complexity of Human Behavior in Scamanda
07:11 The Intrigue of Amanda Riley’s Story
10:47 The Emotional Impact on Victims
15:01 The Relatability and Extremity of Amanda’s Actions
18:01 The Nuances of Amanda’s Deception
23:32 Amanda Riley’s Identity and Motivation
30:43 The Function of Dysfunctional Behaviors
36:03 The Reality of Amanda’s Actions and Empathy
38:31 The Importance of Public Awareness
41:07 Why Amanda Agreed to Speak with Charlie
 
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Episode 45: Replay: Coercive Control and Domestic Violence with Laura Richards

Coercive control is about trying to take away someone’s autonomy and agency. It’s a form of domestic abuse that is often misunderstood and frequently dismissed. In this replay episode, I sit down with the incredible Laura Richards—renowned criminal behavioral analyst and expert on domestic violence—to break it all down.
 
Laura and I discuss the misuse of terms like “narcissistic abuse” and “toxic relationships,” and why getting the terminology right is critical. When these words are misapplied, it can cause real harm, making it harder for victims to recognize what’s happening to them and for others to take it seriously. We also talk about the broader societal factors that allow domestic violence to persist and why these patterns are so deeply embedded.
 
We take a closer look at high-profile cases like Gabby Petito and Lauren Dunne Astley to illustrate how coercive control plays out in real life and the devastating consequences it can have. Laura also sheds light on how the media often memorializes male perpetrators while subtly placing blame on victims, a pattern that continues to fuel dangerous misconceptions.
 
Beyond analyzing the problem, Laura shares the incredible work she’s doing to have coercive control legally recognized as a form of domestic abuse. She explains why advocacy, education, and legal reform are essential to protecting victims and shifting the way society understands domestic violence.
 
This is an eye-opening conversation, and one I hope will help others recognize coercive control for what it is.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction 
02:29 Defining Narcissistic Abuse and Toxic Relationships
04:15 Misuse of the Term “Narcissist”
06:17 Psychopathy and Domestic Violence
09:04 Violent Resistance in Domestic Violence
11:43 Breakup Violence and Coercive Control
18:29 Gender Roles and Social Conditioning
26:15 Recognizing Non-Obvious Patterns of Abuse
30:18 Devaluation and Pedestalization in Relationships
33:56 Concept of Unfreedom in Coercive Control
38:50 Insidious Nature of Coercive Control
41:06 Cultural and Traditional Reinforcement of Male Privilege
47:35 Legal Recognition of Coercive Control
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Episode 44: Q&A Episode: On All Things Narcissistic Abuse

Healing from narcissistic abuse isn’t just about moving on. It’s about rebuilding who you are and learning to trust yourself again.
 
In this episode, I’m answering your questions on what it takes to heal, navigate life after a narcissistic relationship, and co-parent in a way that gives your children stability. If dating again feels impossible or you find yourself second-guessing every new relationship, you’re not alone. Narcissistic abuse erodes your sense of self, and I’ll explain why taking time before jumping into something new is one of the best things you can do for your healing.
 
Leaving a narcissist isn’t just difficult. It requires a plan. I’ll share why revealing your intentions too soon can put you at risk, how to prepare emotionally and financially, and what to expect when dealing with high-conflict custody battles. I’ll also break down how narcissistic traits can be passed down through emotionally immature parenting and what you can do to help your children develop a healthy sense of self.
 
If you’re struggling to move forward, wondering if you’ll ever feel like yourself again, or trying to co-parent with someone who thrives on chaos, this episode is for you. Let’s talk about how to take your power back.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction
01:13 Answering Listener Questions
01:55 How to Flirt After Healing from Heartbreak
03:00 Trust Issues Post-Narcissistic Relationship
05:07 Importance of Not Dating Immediately After Breakup
06:12 Reestablishing Sense of Self
08:18 Misinterpreting Behaviors in New Dates
11:09 Staying Present While Dating
12:34 Maintaining Sense of Self in New Relationships
13:49 First Steps After Telling Narcissistic Spouse About Divorce
18:04 Differences Between Narcissistic and Toxic Breakups
20:00 Emotional Immaturity in Parents
23:00 Learned Behaviors vs. Narcissistic Personality Disorder
24:17 Accountability and Change
26:03 Narcissistic Tendencies in Children
27:08 Supporting a Loved One Dating a Narcissist
28:00 Isolation Tactics by Narcissists
30:29 Co-Parenting with a Narcissist
33:45 Demonstrating Healthy Boundaries
36:06 Closing 
 
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Episode 43: A.I. and the Future of Therapy

Can AI ever replace the human connection at the heart of therapy, or are we losing something essential in the process?
 
I’m sitting down with my friend and colleague Dr. Sue Varma to talk about something that’s been on my mind. Artificial intelligence is making its way into mental health, offering quick answers and structured advice. But can it truly replace the depth of human interaction? Sue shares why the connection between a therapist and client isn’t just helpful. It’s the foundation of real change.
 
We also dig into some common misconceptions about therapy. Many people think it’s just talking instead of an active process of insight and growth. Sue introduces her “four M’s of mental health”—mindfulness, movement, meaningful engagement, and mastery. These simple habits help us stay grounded in an increasingly digital world.
 
As AI continues to reshape mental health care, how do we embrace new tools without losing what makes therapy work? Let’s get into it.
 
Episode Breakdown:
00:00 Introduction 
03:09 Dr. Sue Varma’s Background and Book
04:21 AI in Mental Health: Introduction
05:04 Positives of AI in Mental Health
08:18 Concerns About AI and Human Connection
09:11 Cultural Sensitivity in AI Responses
11:12 Importance of Patient History in Therapy
14:02 Physical and Behavioral Observations in Therapy
17:02 Challenges of AI in Diagnosing Personality Disorders
20:02 Therapeutic Relationship and Rapport
23:10 Misconceptions About Therapy
26:03 Future of AI in Psychiatry and Psychology
27:06 Staying Grounded and Optimistic Amidst AI Advances
28:53 Four M’s of Mental Health
31:09 Closing
 
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